DDGA sanctioning guidelines/rules/things to know for 2009-2010

[Snap]

FYI, PDGA charges $2-$3 per player PLUS $10 per non member in their Tier B or lower tournaments. Of all the different proposals on how to handle extra fees for non members or all players etc at DDGA sanctioned tournaments, the $1 per player was passed. AND IT'S $1, ONE DOLLAR, that you are talking about, it's like 4 quarters, one fundraiser could cover the fees for a whole year easily. Don't forget DDGA tends to sponsor organizations much more than the fees paid to DDGA. NEDDG has gotten at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA in the past 18 months.

Also FYI, Bylaws says all players who play in Nationals must be current DDGA members. Is NEDDG not going to play in their own Nationals?

Point I tried to make about the fees in entry fees, is don't bring it up, it is not the players problem to know or pay this $1, it is the TD's issue on their own to break down the entry fee and set aside $1 per player. You don't advertise this on your fliers or anything, same as PDGA doesn't advertise the $2-$3 fee either, it's TD financial responsibility to submit tournament report with the player fees when tournament is done with.

[Disclover]

I wanted to speculate but don't want to go back and forth to get into a mess.

I'm DDGA Member who wants to propose DDGA Members pay $1 fee for DDGA Sanctioned Tournaments because I feel it would be fair for all of players.

Anyone agrees with me?

FYI, PDGA charges $2-$3 per player PLUS $10 per non member in their Tier B or lower tournaments. Of all the different proposals on how to handle extra fees for non members or all players etc at DDGA sanctioned tournaments, the $1 per player was passed. AND IT'S $1, ONE DOLLAR, that you are talking about, it's like 4 quarters, one fundraiser could cover the fees for a whole year easily. Don't forget DDGA tends to sponsor organizations much more than the fees paid to DDGA. NEDDG has gotten at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA in the past 18 months.

Also FYI, Bylaws says all players who play in Nationals must be current DDGA members. Is NEDDG not going to play in their own Nationals?

Point I tried to make about the fees in entry fees, is don't bring it up, it is not the players problem to know or pay this $1, it is the TD's issue on their own to break down the entry fee and set aside $1 per player. You don't advertise this on your fliers or anything, same as PDGA doesn't advertise the $2-$3 fee either, it's TD financial responsibility to submit tournament report with the player fees when tournament is done with.

[Snap]

So what are you proposing that is different than what is already being done?

Currently; Tournament director pays $1 to DDGA for each particpating player in their tournament.

Your proposal; DDGA members pay $1 to DDGA for playing in DDGA tournaments?

I'm not clear.

And we will be addressing proposals and voting process in April to July so every member has fair chance to discuss proposals and vote even if they cant go to VT10

[DeafDiscGolfer]

This is good discussion!! Please do keep it up!!


What Disclover is trying to say...

Any ACTIVE DDGA members who wants their DDGA points to be counted for ARE to pay extra $1 at any DDGA-sanctioned tournaments.

Any NON or INACTIVE DDGA members are NOT require to pay extra $1 for it because their points are not being counted for at all.


What Snap is trying to say...

At any DDGA-sanctioned tournaments, $1 per player is automatically deducted, whether the players are DDGA members or not.

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Its pretty much the same as standard PDGA-sanctioned tournaments out there but a lot cheaper thought.


KEEP IN MIND ABOUT WHAT CAN THIS $$$ HELP DDGA TO HELP YOU TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL TOURNAMENTS!!

[JGBX1]

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear but Deafdiscgolfer comment was VERY CLEAR to me it make sense hope that You read that over Disclover  thts how it works  we the players do not pay the extra $1.00 it is taken out of the entry fee to play in your Local Tournament as DEAFDISCGOLFER EXPLAINED THTS HOW IT WORKS 
UNLESS the NEW PROPOSITION  is to make us pay an EXTRA $1.00  thts Diffrent .. but My question wasn't ANSWERED YET ALSO Either was KENT question answered yet unless I missed it

[Snap]

It is entirely up to the TD/Club putting on the tournament on how they want to charge the entry fee.

If it's 19+1 = $20 for example, then TD takes out $1 for each player when figuring out pay out and witholdings etc.

If it's 20+1 = $21 for example, same thing as above, only TD will need alot of change to handle all the $1 bills in change.

It's the same thing as a PDGA tournament, you pay $50 to enter the tournament. The TD takes out $2-3 for PDGA fees, then $10ish for players package, $2 for other fees and oh maybe $2 TD compensation etc. Using this example, $33-34 would go to pay out and $16-17 goes to fees and expenses.

Don't forget that a lot of the $ goes to DDGA expenses like sponsoring various tournaments, Nationals, postage, materials, website operation, and more. DDGA has been barely scraping by after so many years and we had to add a way to bring in more money to be able to provide more to the organizations nationwide more...

Again, the $1 fee is not a burden onto the player, it is onto the club putting on the tournament, and one fundraiser could cover all the fees easily.

[AntIsaacs]

I think the points differences (10x in a-tier tournaments and 20x in national tour) need to be brought up and decided in open DDGA meeting with DDGA members. Some members do not agree with the points differences idea. Can DDGA go back to the 10x format and hold the new idea until the open DDGA meeting with members at VT'10?

[Disclover]

I learned more about those DDGA points and as you know if you have 20x for your Bluegrass then you would interest more DDGA players to come to fight to get more points that way.  That's how you have better success at your host tournament.  I think it's an awesome deal to do that.

I think the points differences (10x in a-tier tournaments and 20x in national tour) need to be brought up and decided in open DDGA meeting with DDGA members. Some members do not agree with the points differences idea. Can DDGA go back to the 10x format and hold the new idea until the open DDGA meeting with members at VT'10?

[Snap]

I think the points differences (10x in a-tier tournaments and 20x in national tour) need to be brought up and decided in open DDGA meeting with DDGA members. Some members do not agree with the points differences idea. Can DDGA go back to the 10x format and hold the new idea until the open DDGA meeting with members at VT'10?

Mind elaborating on what is not liked about having different tier levels and points? This is a new concept and was presented at IL'09 that a committee would work on it and present it to test in effect for 2010 just like we tested in 2008 and 2009. Please look at PDGA tier levels as well. Let us know, no point waiting till VT'10, lets address the ripples...

[DeafaLiEnDisc]

FYI, PDGA charges $2-$3 per player PLUS $10 per non member in their Tier B or lower tournaments. Of all the different proposals on how to handle extra fees for non members or all players etc at DDGA sanctioned tournaments, the $1 per player was passed. AND IT'S $1, ONE DOLLAR, that you are talking about, it's like 4 quarters, one fundraiser could cover the fees for a whole year easily. Don't forget DDGA tends to sponsor organizations much more than the fees paid to DDGA. NEDDG has gotten at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA in the past 18 months.

Also FYI, Bylaws says all players who play in Nationals must be current DDGA members. Is NEDDG not going to play in their own Nationals?

Point I tried to make about the fees in entry fees, is don't bring it up, it is not the players problem to know or pay this $1, it is the TD's issue on their own to break down the entry fee and set aside $1 per player. You don't advertise this on your fliers or anything, same as PDGA doesn't advertise the $2-$3 fee either, it's TD financial responsibility to submit tournament report with the player fees when tournament is done with.

 After all of this discuss was talked about DDGA sanctioned tournaments, with some clearing and understanding, Or continue to disagree.. And I notice one part that seems no one from NEDDG pay attention after what SNAP was said...  here it is I want to discuss about this ((NEDDG has gotten at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA in the past 18 months.))     I was puzzled after I read and saw this part. I believe that we never never got anything from DDGA since! If it does. Which tournament did DDGA sent/give to? And what is the stuff was it? This must be mistake and it must be never been sent to. Also I was told that Deaf Island might be one of longest and/or most DDGA sanctioned for of general NEDDG's tournaments. As I am the host/"chairperson" for Deaf Island I never received and see any the stuff from DDGA.   But I know and just learned that I will contact with some of you sometime soon about getting first stuff for Deaf Island, after the $10 for DDGA sanctioned get through the processing. But point to what Snap had said about at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA.. 
 

[Disclover]

Hint Hint: DDGA gave us those worth of merchandise.  Ask them and you might get them for Deaf Island? am I right, Snap?

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After all of this discuss was talked about DDGA sanctioned tournaments, with some clearing and understanding, Or continue to disagree.. And I notice one part that seems no one from NEDDG pay attention after what SNAP was said...  here it is I want to discuss about this ((NEDDG has gotten at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA in the past 18 months.))     I was puzzled after I read and saw this part. I believe that we never never got anything from DDGA since! If it does. Which tournament did DDGA sent/give to? And what is the stuff was it? This must be mistake and it must be never been sent to. Also I was told that Deaf Island might be one of longest and/or most DDGA sanctioned for of general NEDDG's tournaments. As I am the host/"chairperson" for Deaf Island I never received and see any the stuff from DDGA.   But I know and just learned that I will contact with some of you sometime soon about getting first stuff for Deaf Island, after the $10 for DDGA sanctioned get through the processing. But point to what Snap had said about at least $200-$300+ worth of stuff from DDGA.. 
 
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[Kent]

Alien-

during my tenure, if someone would send me a request for sponsorship, i would mail out merchandise.

Corey and travis were the receiptants on various occassions.

It was my bad for not thinkin of deaf island.

I suggest you write a request for sponsorship and send it off to ddga board.

There's also discount code for gorilla-boy if need it.

[Snap]

Yep, in sanctioning guidelines on tournament page has explanation of what to do if want sponsorship in merch from DDGA as DDGA has done in the past.
As for NEDDG, I suggest the 2008-2009 TD's get together and discuss the overwhelming support they have received from DDGA in those 2 years and make sure y'all on same page. DDGA cannot sponsor every tournament so it be better if organizations make requests for the whole year.
ODDGA and WDDGA make their requests for the whole year and not just for one tournament. Up to them how they use up the merch.

[AntIsaacs]

Mind elaborating on what is not liked about having different tier levels and points? This is a new concept and was presented at IL'09 that a committee would work on it and present it to test in effect for 2010 just like we tested in 2008 and 2009. Please look at PDGA tier levels as well. Let us know, no point waiting till VT'10, lets address the ripples...

The points difference will hurt a-tier tournaments because it is more likely that disc golfers would choose not to attend a-tier tournaments based on their current points standing when they don't find their standing competitive. Tournaments also may have less and less players eventually because they could choose to play 20x point worth tournaments in order to make fast points. I find less players and points difference correlated to each other. It is more of a hypothesis here.

Ant